Oireachtas Joint and Select Committees

Wednesday, 29 May 2024

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health

Health Service Executive: Chairperson Designate

Mr. Ciar?n Devane:

I would like to think we mostly do that. We do not always do it, which is why it happens, and we do not always successfully do it, which is why it happens. On the principle that no good deed goes unpunished, that is where some of the problem last year came from. We thought we would have these 11,000 or 12,000 people leaving but in reality, it was 10,000. We had anticipated we were going to have to replace these people because there would be people leaving, as they always do. We do that to an extent. There are 145,000 whole-time equivalents, or close to 175,000 people, in the system. We are talking about large numbers here. However, the local organisations are usually good at trying to get their succession planning in place. They know who will be retiring next year or the year after that. That is where some of these vacancies come from. Can we be better? Absolutely.