Mr. Thomas McCarthy:

On youth justice, there are criteria for the normal youth justice projects and then there are criteria for the likes of Mr. Ducque's project, which are at a much higher level. In a normal youth justice project, there are five or six criteria you have to meet. It is more of a caution-based system. If you get a caution from the Garda, you can go into a youth justice project. Mr. Ducque's project is for people who are in the courts system and who have been charged. That is the difference between the Garda diversion programmes and the youth justice programmes.