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Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2022: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board (30 May 2024)

Mr. David Gunning: I thank the Chair and Deputies for the invitation to attend this morning. I will skip the introductions and some elements of my opening statement which have already been covered. The NPHDB was appointed by the then Minister for Health in 2013 to design, build and equip the new children’s hospital. This includes the new children’s hospital on the site at...

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2022: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board (30 May 2024)

Brian Stanley: I am trying to figure this out. I want to go back a bit and figure out where the buck stops. As some of the members alluded to earlier, there is also a national maternity hospital to be built. I think we all accept that there has been substantial inflation in the wider economy and in the construction sector given forces beyond our control like war and Covid but the point is about us not...

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2022: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board (30 May 2024)

Mr. David Gunning: I wish to respond on a couple of points the Deputy raised. This date has been provided and, yes, we need the substantiating data so we can really understand what the position is. It is also important to point out there are about 1,150 people turning up to work every day at the site, and we have to acknowledge their efforts. We are making progress but it is not at the...

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2022: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board (30 May 2024)

Catherine Murphy: It seems like 4,000 out of 5,560, and even at that there are 1,500 that have not got to the threshold that are completed. There are 4,000 rooms where there is still quite considerable work outstanding, even if it is only 10% or 15% of the work. Is February of next year optimistic?

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2022: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board (30 May 2024)

Brian Stanley: I understand. That is acceptable. At 18 months, the period to address any problems that arise is fairly long. We discussed the levers. Mr. Gunning mentioned several times that the board is using all of the levers to keep the contractor’s feet to the fire, for want of a better term, and ensure that work is done properly. To date, however, the levers available to the board have...

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2022: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board (30 May 2024)

Mr. David Gunning: Let us put it that way. Generally, - and I think everybody is aware of this - the way these things work is that at the end of a project like this, there tends to be a significant exchange of final account information. We had a very successful negotiation with the contractor in closing out the satellites. Much of the bluster that was there in advance became very real....