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Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2023: Health Service Executive (24 Oct 2024)

Mairead Farrell: Apologies have been received from Deputy John Brady. As this is my first meeting as Cathaoirleach, I must make the following declaration in attend in accordance with Standing Order 104(3)(a). Dearbhaím go sollúnta go ndéanfaidh mé, go cuí agus go dílis agus a mhéid is eol agus is cumas dom, oifig Chathaoirleach an Choiste um Chuntais Phoiblí a...

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2023: Health Service Executive (24 Oct 2024)

Mairead Farrell: Inniu is é an príomhchainteoir ná an Teachta Ciarán Cannon. Beidh 15 nóiméad aige. The lead speaker today is Deputy Ciarán Cannon, who has 15 minutes. All other members will have ten minutes, but I will allow them back for a second round of questions. At 11 a.m., we will take a short break.

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2023: Health Service Executive (24 Oct 2024)

Mairead Farrell: Go raibh míle maith agat as sin. An dara chainteoir ná an Teachta Paul McAuliffe.

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2023: Health Service Executive (24 Oct 2024)

Paul McAuliffe: I acknowledge the Cathaoirleach's new position. I have no doubt but that she will continue the good work of the previous Chair in chairing this committee and doing it in a cross-party way. Our work in this committee is very important, but so is the way we do our work. It is important and different from other committees. I acknowledge this point. I thank Mr. Gloster and all the team for...

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2023: Health Service Executive (24 Oct 2024)

Paul McAuliffe: I saw a figure regarding the outpatient waiting lists having been reduced by 50,000 people. Mr. Gloster is saying this is a real reduction rather than a validation exercise.

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2023: Health Service Executive (24 Oct 2024)

Paul McAuliffe: Will Mr. Gloster repeat that figure?

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2023: Health Service Executive (24 Oct 2024)

Paul McAuliffe: I accept that point. The experience just shone a light on the outpatients waiting list for me.

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2023: Health Service Executive (24 Oct 2024)

Paul McAuliffe: We do not know, but this may be the last or the second last meeting of this committee. It will certainly be the last meeting during this Dáil when Mr. Gloster will be before us anyway.

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2023: Health Service Executive (24 Oct 2024)

Paul McAuliffe: I am very much cognisant of the volume of money associated with this hearing. We are talking about €23.5 billion. Many Government Departments could be folded into that figure. In 2019, the figure was €16 billion. Essentially, there has been a 46% increase in the funding of the HSE over the past four years, that is, the lifetime of this Government. In 60 seconds, can Mr....

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2023: Health Service Executive (24 Oct 2024)

Paul McAuliffe: I would love to explore that point more but I just do not have the time. Turning to the non-compliant procurement, this is the first thing we look at in this committee. The HSE estimated that the total expenditure on goods and services subject to procurement rules was €4.2 billion. Again, this amount is multiples of an entire Government Department in some cases. The idea that...

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2023: Health Service Executive (24 Oct 2024)

Paul McAuliffe: When the HSE did the self-assessed audit, there was a very significant percentage of either non-co-operation or where you could not identify the purchaser. The figure of 12% actually could be higher.

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2023: Health Service Executive (24 Oct 2024)

Paul McAuliffe: Just to return to that point, Mr. Mulvany is saying the figure of 12% does include the 13% of invoices within the scope of the exercise where either the manager responsible could not be identified or where the manager failed to respond to the exercise. He is saying that 13% is deemed non-compliant and is included in the 12%.

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2023: Health Service Executive (24 Oct 2024)

Paul McAuliffe: Will the C and AG confirm that?

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2023: Health Service Executive (24 Oct 2024)

Paul McAuliffe: Can we get a note back on that?

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2023: Health Service Executive (24 Oct 2024)

Mairead Farrell: To follow on, I have a brief question on that. Mr. Mulvany mentioned there that a self-assessment was done. We understand that from the briefing but then he mentioned a random sample was taken. I assume what Mr. Mulvany means is that it was assessed externally. Is that correct?

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2023: Health Service Executive (24 Oct 2024)

Mairead Farrell: How much of that random sample complied with the self-assessment? I assume a self-assessment was done initially and then had the random sample?

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2023: Health Service Executive (24 Oct 2024)

Mairead Farrell: So there was 10% issue.

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2023: Health Service Executive (24 Oct 2024)

Mairead Farrell: Okay. It is just clearly an issue of concern when it is under 40% of what is actually being assessed and then there is also the amount that is not assessed. I will bring in the next speaker.

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2023: Health Service Executive (24 Oct 2024)

Mairead Farrell: I understand that and I read that. It is more than a limitation. It is quite concerning when significantly less than half can be looked at. However, I will bring in the next speaker, an Teachta Kelly.

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2023: Health Service Executive (24 Oct 2024)

Alan Kelly: I thank the Cathaoirleach and wish her the best of luck. She will be a fantastic Chair. I welcome everyone, particularly those who have been appointed in the last period of time. Best of luck to them. We need them all to be successful so I hope that they will be. I welcome those who have been around for a while as well. In fairness to the CEO, one thing about Mr. Gloster is that his...

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