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Joint Oireachtas Committee on Jobs, Enterprise and Innovation: Sub-Minimum Rates of the National Minimum Wage: Discussion (Resumed) (18 Sep 2024)

Louise O'Reilly: I thank the witnesses for the information they have brought with them. In the final paragraph of his written submission, Mr. Smyth asked for time to conduct the review. What kind of time is he looking at?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Jobs, Enterprise and Innovation: Sub-Minimum Rates of the National Minimum Wage: Discussion (Resumed) (18 Sep 2024)

Louise O'Reilly: Is that work under way at the moment?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Jobs, Enterprise and Innovation: Sub-Minimum Rates of the National Minimum Wage: Discussion (Resumed) (18 Sep 2024)

Louise O'Reilly: Okay, that is interesting. Let us imagine that tomorrow morning the Minister picks up the phone and says he is minded to abolish sub-minimum rates of pay, that all of them should be gone and he wants to do it. Would the Department do that via this legislation or would Mr. Smyth feel it necessary to draft the Department's own legislation? If there is a difference, the witnesses might...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Jobs, Enterprise and Innovation: Sub-Minimum Rates of the National Minimum Wage: Discussion (Resumed) (18 Sep 2024)

Louise O'Reilly: I appreciate that but sometimes we discuss legislation here and we are mindful of potential knock-on consequences. Are there no stumbling blocks other than it being subject to legal advice? I am not asking for a specific legal opinion. Ms Pyke's instinct is that it would be-----

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Jobs, Enterprise and Innovation: Sub-Minimum Rates of the National Minimum Wage: Discussion (Resumed) (18 Sep 2024)

Louise O'Reilly: Exactly, and that is my view as well. I sometimes think that, with legislation, less is very often more. The more you put in, the more likely it is you could be tripped up. The opening statement states, "the incidence of sub-minimum youth rates may increase during recessionary periods". That happens because things are tight during recessionary periods and employers will, by necessity...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Jobs, Enterprise and Innovation: Sub-Minimum Rates of the National Minimum Wage: Discussion (Resumed) (18 Sep 2024)

Louise O'Reilly: I understand that. I do not want to put words in the mouths of the sponsors of the Bill but I think what they want to do is take away from an employer the option of having the facility there to access cheaper and cheaper labour. The Department's submission refers to those who advocate for the retention of these rates doing so because they believe they are necessary to reflect different...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Jobs, Enterprise and Innovation: Sub-Minimum Rates of the National Minimum Wage: Discussion (Resumed) (18 Sep 2024)

Louise O'Reilly: Ms Pyke is making my point for me. There is no academic evidence; there is only a feeling. If we speak to someone working on a shop floor they will often say that what a person might lack in experience they will make up for in other ways and it will even out. That there are training rates, and that making a link to experience could not be done, points to the fact that experience is not...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Jobs, Enterprise and Innovation: Sub-Minimum Rates of the National Minimum Wage: Discussion (Resumed) (18 Sep 2024)

Louise O'Reilly: There is no evidence to support not eliminating this. When I look around for evidence, employers cannot provide it but they say they feel it. It is little bit like when the minimum wage was introduced and we heard terrible tales of woe about all of the businesses that were going to close but it did not happen. Perhaps there is a little bit of that with the people who are arguing against...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Jobs, Enterprise and Innovation: Sub-Minimum Rates of the National Minimum Wage: Discussion (Resumed) (18 Sep 2024)

Louise O'Reilly: Sorry to interrupt but I am well aware of all those non-specific schemes. I am talking specifically about the submission that was made about the elimination of sub-minimum rates of pay and the reference in it to the potential need for supports for those employers who could be affected were this legislation to be enacted. I am aware of the generality and catch-all, although some would say it...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Jobs, Enterprise and Innovation: Sub-Minimum Rates of the National Minimum Wage: Discussion (Resumed) (18 Sep 2024)

Louise O'Reilly: Okay. Has the ESRI been asked to do that work? Is it doing it at the moment or is it part of a bigger body of work it is doing?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Jobs, Enterprise and Innovation: Sub-Minimum Rates of the National Minimum Wage: Discussion (Resumed) (18 Sep 2024)

Louise O'Reilly: Is there any timeline on that?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Jobs, Enterprise and Innovation: Sub-Minimum Rates of the National Minimum Wage: Discussion (Resumed) (18 Sep 2024)

Louise O'Reilly: It is all part of the economic impact assessment.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Jobs, Enterprise and Innovation: Sub-Minimum Rates of the National Minimum Wage: Discussion (Resumed) (18 Sep 2024)

Louise O'Reilly: That is fine. Those are all my questions. I thank the Chair and the witnesses.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Jobs, Enterprise and Innovation: Sub-Minimum Rates of the National Minimum Wage: Discussion (Resumed) (18 Sep 2024)

David Stanton: I will probably not take all the time as Deputy O'Reilly already asked many of the questions I was going to ask. When did the Minister request the economic impact assessment?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Jobs, Enterprise and Innovation: Sub-Minimum Rates of the National Minimum Wage: Discussion (Resumed) (18 Sep 2024)

David Stanton: When was that? What was the approximate date?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Jobs, Enterprise and Innovation: Sub-Minimum Rates of the National Minimum Wage: Discussion (Resumed) (18 Sep 2024)

David Stanton: Can Ms Pyke give the committee an approximate date?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Jobs, Enterprise and Innovation: Sub-Minimum Rates of the National Minimum Wage: Discussion (Resumed) (18 Sep 2024)

David Stanton: Six months later the Department is starting the work.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Jobs, Enterprise and Innovation: Sub-Minimum Rates of the National Minimum Wage: Discussion (Resumed) (18 Sep 2024)

David Stanton: Will Ms Pyke give the committee an outline of the terms of reference of the economic impact assessment?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Jobs, Enterprise and Innovation: Sub-Minimum Rates of the National Minimum Wage: Discussion (Resumed) (18 Sep 2024)

David Stanton: The Department stated that an outside agency is doing this work.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Jobs, Enterprise and Innovation: Sub-Minimum Rates of the National Minimum Wage: Discussion (Resumed) (18 Sep 2024)

David Stanton: Who is it?

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