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Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: General Scheme of the National Cyber Security Bill 2024: Cyber Ireland (17 Oct 2024)

Alan Farrell: Yes, I understand that. I will go back to the educational side, and the pathway into the sector to provide the level of expertise we will require on an ongoing basis, not just as a result of this proposal but because of the growth within the sector. It is very easy for me to say it is likely that we have yet to do enough, but we probably have proposals to expand capacity. Is that Mr....

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: General Scheme of the National Cyber Security Bill 2024: Cyber Ireland (17 Oct 2024)

Alan Farrell: That is very interesting. As a committee, we might write to the National Council for Curriculum and Assessment and ask for its opinion on that. It would be interesting to hear from it, and it would certainly be helpful for the committee in compiling its report to the Houses. I promise members that I have just two more questions. I am sorry. A cybersecurity campus is a nice idea. It...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: General Scheme of the National Cyber Security Bill 2024: Cyber Ireland (17 Oct 2024)

Alan Farrell: As we know, because they got themselves into a bit of hot water about it, some of our third level constituents have, to be fair, developed technology which has been quite competitive. There certainly is an option for this. It is an interesting area and I welcome the discussion on it. My next point is on governance and oversight, on which Mr. Honan might have a view. I am a member of the...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: General Scheme of the National Cyber Security Bill 2024: Cyber Ireland (17 Oct 2024)

Alan Farrell: My interest in and curiosity about the oversight were sparked by an article in The Sunday Times a few weeks ago. I thought it would be an interesting question to Mr. Honan as an industry representative. On reflection for later, do any of the firms which Mr. Honan represents have a particular view on this? Mr. Honan might ask, as we are interested in this feedback if it is possible. I...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: General Scheme of the National Cyber Security Bill 2024: Cyber Ireland (17 Oct 2024)

Steven Matthews: I thank Mr. Honan for his attendance. This is a very complex area that has developed incredibly quickly and continues to develop. I have no expertise in this area. Sometimes I struggle to comprehend the risks that exist in cybersecurity and the challenges for us to try to counter these risks. When somebody speaks about cybersecurity I tend to think of very high-level national security....

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: General Scheme of the National Cyber Security Bill 2024: Cyber Ireland (17 Oct 2024)

Steven Matthews: This is my view and I just wanted it clarified. We are doing pre-legislative scrutiny on the heads of a Bill that has been presented to us. We will produce a Bill and legislation on this. Mr. Honan has made points on the prioritisation of national cybersecurity. Does he believe that what is contained in the general scheme meets this and that we are prioritising national cybersecurity?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: General Scheme of the National Cyber Security Bill 2024: Cyber Ireland (17 Oct 2024)

Steven Matthews: I get the point on our energy transmission systems, telemetry systems and transport. These are our very high-level cyber networks that are at risk. The supply chains go on and on, down to small businesses. Should we apply a cyber safety integrity level system, considering where a company is in a supply chain or what type of SME it is?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: General Scheme of the National Cyber Security Bill 2024: Cyber Ireland (17 Oct 2024)

Steven Matthews: I suppose it is only when you are hit by something that you take it seriously. It is something that happens somewhere else and then you think "God, were we not lucky that it was not us?". A lot of the time it probably is luck. On the cyber-resilience rating for equipment, the equipment remains vulnerable to the actual user. You can design a system that is very safe but issues can arise...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: General Scheme of the National Cyber Security Bill 2024: Cyber Ireland (17 Oct 2024)

Alan Farrell: It is really about building resilience, is it not? Mr. Honan has talked about the strata of Bills and arrangements made to bring this up. Education is clearly one of these. I refer to the provision of courses at third level and also, as I have said, writing to the National Council for Curriculum and Assessment to ask what it is doing in this sphere. That would be very helpful to us. We...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: General Scheme of the National Cyber Security Bill 2024: Cyber Ireland (17 Oct 2024)

Steven Matthews: Mr. Honan mentioned the data centres. Ireland is a data centre hub. Some people are very much against that. Others are not as concerned about it. However, one third of EU data is stored in Ireland. It is obviously in private companies' interests to ensure that we have the highest level of cybersecurity but it is also in the interests of the EU in general. Mr. Honan mentioned cloud-based...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: General Scheme of the National Cyber Security Bill 2024: Cyber Ireland (17 Oct 2024)

Steven Matthews: That will obviously require risk assessment. You have to carry out a risk assessment to know where the weaknesses are and where needs the most investment. When speaking in public meetings, I am always very conscious of the danger of discussing risks in Ireland and potential gaps in our cyber network but these risks need to be assessed. Is there a national risk assessment?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: General Scheme of the National Cyber Security Bill 2024: Cyber Ireland (17 Oct 2024)

Steven Matthews: I presume there is also a national risk register than monitors and sets out how we are addressing different risks. Obviously, putting this information into the public realm is not the wisest thing to do.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: General Scheme of the National Cyber Security Bill 2024: Cyber Ireland (17 Oct 2024)

Steven Matthews: That is fine. It is just that the Chair referred earlier to-----

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: General Scheme of the National Cyber Security Bill 2024: Cyber Ireland (17 Oct 2024)

Steven Matthews: That brings me on to my next point, which is on the expertise and training required to do this. When you are an expert and a very experienced and competent person, you can do good with that or you can do bad with it. How do we certify cyber professionals? What is the certification process? How are safety management systems and so on assessed for quality and safety? How do we certify a...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: General Scheme of the National Cyber Security Bill 2024: Cyber Ireland (17 Oct 2024)

Steven Matthews: That covers everything from designers of systems to installers, those who maintain them and the owners. There is a whole layer of different-----

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: General Scheme of the National Cyber Security Bill 2024: Cyber Ireland (17 Oct 2024)

Steven Matthews: I will not even go into AI because I have not even attempted to try to understand it. Sometimes I reach a point where I ask if I really need to know a technology as I have enough in my life at this stage. I know I am taking up a bit of time but I want to expand on one point. We talk about designers, installers and so on, and we could certify them and have a level and a standard for that....

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: General Scheme of the National Cyber Security Bill 2024: Cyber Ireland (17 Oct 2024)

Steven Matthews: The car and road safety scenario is fine, and it is a set of circumstances that we are all familiar with. The villains out there in the cyberworld try to trap people. It is like putting in a traffic light that never existed before or putting a bend in the road that someone was not expecting. We are told not to open attachments from untrusted sources but people are doing so much that they...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: General Scheme of the National Cyber Security Bill 2024: Cyber Ireland (17 Oct 2024)

Steven Matthews: That is great. I thank Mr. Honan for his expertise. It has been very helpful.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: General Scheme of the National Cyber Security Bill 2024: Cyber Ireland (17 Oct 2024)

Alan Farrell: Or is it nation state specific?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: General Scheme of the National Cyber Security Bill 2024: Cyber Ireland (17 Oct 2024)

Alan Farrell: I presume the bar applied by the High Court would be particularly high.