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Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: National Children’s Hospital: Discussion (9 Oct 2024)

Stephen Donnelly: That is right.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: National Children’s Hospital: Discussion (9 Oct 2024)

David Cullinane: It is my understanding - the Minister might confirm this - that those claims centred around delays. While the total ask from BAM or the value BAM put on it might have been double what was awarded it was still awarded €108 million. How in God's name was it awarded €108 million if, as the board has stated, the delays were almost entirely or exclusively down to the contractor?...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: National Children’s Hospital: Discussion (9 Oct 2024)

David Cullinane: I am sorry, I asked the Minister.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: National Children’s Hospital: Discussion (9 Oct 2024)

Stephen Donnelly: The award for €107 million or €108 million is contested very strongly by the board.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: National Children’s Hospital: Discussion (9 Oct 2024)

David Cullinane: I know it is, and it can be appealed to the court. The standing conciliator made a recommendation or however you want to put it. The conciliator adjudicated and made a recommendation in the amount of €108 million. The board contested this. I accept all of that. I went through this with the board. It was, however, the decision of the standing conciliator. Is that correct? The...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: National Children’s Hospital: Discussion (9 Oct 2024)

Stephen Donnelly: It was the recommendation.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: National Children’s Hospital: Discussion (9 Oct 2024)

Stephen Donnelly: No. The Deputy's first question was whether I had put it to them. It was not exactly as the Deputy has said, but I did make it very clear that the view of the Government and the view of the board was that the project-----

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: National Children’s Hospital: Discussion (9 Oct 2024)

David Cullinane: The second figure we have, again according to the board, was that since last September 2023 BAM has on average achieved 64% of its plan. Did the Minister put this to the parent company?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: National Children’s Hospital: Discussion (9 Oct 2024)

Stephen Donnelly: With the Cathaoirleach's permission can we take a bit longer? It is a charge the Deputy has made many times. I have no issue with the charge and I fully appreciate why the Deputy would make it. I will answer directly the Deputy's first question as to the timing of the meeting with Royal BAM. Then, rather than hearing from me about my involvement in the project, I will ask Ms Ross, as the...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: National Children’s Hospital: Discussion (9 Oct 2024)

Stephen Donnelly: No, the meeting was not to begin to deconstruct the draft proposal. It was to discuss getting to deadlines and doing what is required to do so.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: National Children’s Hospital: Discussion (9 Oct 2024)

Stephen Donnelly: I would prefer not to try to characterise BAM because it would be fully entitled to come back and say that is a matter for the company. I apologise for repeating myself. The full gamut of issues was discussed in a frank and open way.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: National Children’s Hospital: Discussion (9 Oct 2024)

Stephen Donnelly: The Senator will appreciate that the reference made was in the context of a massive increase in the communicated cost.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: National Children’s Hospital: Discussion (9 Oct 2024)

Stephen Donnelly: It has not continued. The amount of money the Government authorised earlier this year was linked to the 2019 agreement so the cost overruns did not continue in the lifetime of this Government. I am afraid the €2.2 billion was referring back to the 2019 agreement. Let me answer the Senator very directly. I have full confidence in the board acting on our behalf. I believe Ms Fiona...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: National Children’s Hospital: Discussion (9 Oct 2024)

Stephen Donnelly: Ms Ross can correct me if I am wrong-----

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: National Children’s Hospital: Discussion (9 Oct 2024)

Stephen Donnelly: Yes. The Royal BAM chief executive was there and he was accompanied by the chief executive or the general manager - whatever the title is - for BAM UK and Ireland and the chief operating officer for BAM UK and Ireland.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: National Children’s Hospital: Discussion (9 Oct 2024)

David Cullinane: I want to deal with the funding side. I am aware that some of this was dealt with earlier, but I want to circle back on some of the issues that were raised. There is a huge number of outstanding claims. BAM has placed a value of about €800 million or whatever on these. That has been disputed by the Minister, the State and, obviously, the board. Where we have total agreement is...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: National Children’s Hospital: Discussion (9 Oct 2024)

David Cullinane: Ultimately, any of these claims may well end up in the court. It could be the High Court that decides this claim or any others if they are not resolved. Neither the Minister, Ms Ross, Mr. Tierney nor can guarantee what a court is going to do. If the matter goes to court and there is about €800 million in claims involved, it is conceivably possible or probable, given the...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: National Children’s Hospital: Discussion (9 Oct 2024)

Stephen Donnelly: The Deputy asks if there an amount included against full and final awards. There is. In addition, in the context of the Government decision, there is freedom - or whatever the right word is - such that the board is authorised to reach a full and final agreement.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: National Children’s Hospital: Discussion (9 Oct 2024)

David Cullinane: My question is more straightforward. Hypothetically, the matter could go to court and there could be a judgment. We do not know what the amount involved might be. How can the Minister guarantee that it will not go above €2.2 billion? Surely it is impossible to say because it is out of his hands, my hands or anybody else's hands.