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Select Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Estimates for Public Services 2024
Vote 34 - Housing, Local Government and Heritage (Supplementary) (16 Oct 2024)

Darragh O'Brien: Gabhaim buíochas leis an gcoiste as an gcuireadh teacht anseo tráthnóna inniu. I very much welcome the opportunity to discuss with the select committee my Department’s Supplementary Estimate for 2024. I am joined by the following officials from my Department: Mr. David Kelly, assistant secretary in the homelessness, rental and social inclusion division, and Ms Sinead...

Select Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Estimates for Public Services 2024
Vote 34 - Housing, Local Government and Heritage (Supplementary) (16 Oct 2024)

Darragh O'Brien: To answer the Deputy's first question on revised housing targets, I expect the Cabinet subcommittee on housing to meet in the coming weeks. I will bring forward proposals to that subcommittee and we will discuss them among the three parties. That is based on the work that has been done by a number of bodies, including the ESRI and the Housing Commission. That will feed into the revised...

Select Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Estimates for Public Services 2024
Vote 34 - Housing, Local Government and Heritage (Supplementary) (16 Oct 2024)

Darragh O'Brien: Deputy McAuliffe is referring to the Local Government Fund as opposed to what we give from a capital perspective. That is something on which there is and should be clarity, in particular for councillors in advance of setting their own budgets. I know many councils are preparing to set their budgets for next year.

Select Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Estimates for Public Services 2024
Vote 34 - Housing, Local Government and Heritage (Supplementary) (16 Oct 2024)

Darragh O'Brien: Equalisation funding is provided to local authorities in advance of their budgets, which should provide the clarity people need. Deputy McAuliffe is correct about Dublin City Council. It is the largest local authority and many of the services the State provides for people across the State are centred in Dublin, or there are more of them located in Dublin city. If we can provide any further...

Select Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Estimates for Public Services 2024
Vote 34 - Housing, Local Government and Heritage (Supplementary) (16 Oct 2024)

Darragh O'Brien: I agree. We are fully committed to it. We substantially exceeded our target last year. As the Deputy is aware, we started last year with an acquisition target of 200 but we purchased outright approximately 1,800 plus units. There were some teething issues at the start but we have a very strong pipeline now. We will also exceed the baseline target that we set this year of 1,500. It makes...

Select Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Estimates for Public Services 2024
Vote 34 - Housing, Local Government and Heritage (Supplementary) (16 Oct 2024)

Darragh O'Brien: Yes, sure.

Select Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Estimates for Public Services 2024
Vote 34 - Housing, Local Government and Heritage (Supplementary) (16 Oct 2024)

Darragh O'Brien: I will get the details for the Deputy. He refers to €552 million. We provided €200 million in June. Some €97 million is to support the tenant in situ programme. A total of €255 million is required for the development levy waiver - charged into A3. They are the main parts of it.

Select Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Estimates for Public Services 2024
Vote 34 - Housing, Local Government and Heritage (Supplementary) (16 Oct 2024)

Darragh O'Brien: There have, unquestionably, been additional costs, but we endeavour to manage them as best as we can. I am sure Deputy Ó Broin knows from talking to our delivery partners that the costs are managed within it. For clarity's sake, I do not know if Deputy Ó Broin has the information, but in June when there was a temporary reallocation, it was €40 million to subhead A3, which...

Select Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Estimates for Public Services 2024
Vote 34 - Housing, Local Government and Heritage (Supplementary) (16 Oct 2024)

Darragh O'Brien: We will exceed our target on CREL. Since we changed the cost-rental equity loan and brought in the equity amount, and increased the amount to 55%, we have seen a substantial increase in applications in a very strong delivery for this year and into next year. On the capital assistance side, we are looking at an additional €20 million. We expect CREL to-----

Select Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Estimates for Public Services 2024
Vote 34 - Housing, Local Government and Heritage (Supplementary) (16 Oct 2024)

Darragh O'Brien: Yes, overall. I do not have the final numbers on it but I believe we will exceed our cost-rental target this year.

Select Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Estimates for Public Services 2024
Vote 34 - Housing, Local Government and Heritage (Supplementary) (16 Oct 2024)

Darragh O'Brien: There will be. The increase in the CREL includes an increase in what we spend on it, but there is construction price inflation as well. On the approval of our schemes, we are looking in particular at cost containment as well, especially on the management costs of those. We have been very strict on that. Schemes have not been approved straight away but have been sent back in particular on...

Select Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Estimates for Public Services 2024
Vote 34 - Housing, Local Government and Heritage (Supplementary) (16 Oct 2024)

Darragh O'Brien: It is additional moneys. Deputy Ó Broin is correct about the €200 million that is a reallocation and is being moved back. The development levy waiver in particular and the Uisce Éireann connection charge were policy decisions the Government made after we settled our ceilings. They were additional, as was the expansion of the tenant in situ purchases. I got agreement at...

Select Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Estimates for Public Services 2024
Vote 34 - Housing, Local Government and Heritage (Supplementary) (16 Oct 2024)

Darragh O'Brien: There was a mistake there.

Select Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Estimates for Public Services 2024
Vote 34 - Housing, Local Government and Heritage (Supplementary) (16 Oct 2024)

Darragh O'Brien: With regard to the defects, the allocation is actually €100 million. That was actually a mistake in the booklet that was printed.

Select Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Estimates for Public Services 2024
Vote 34 - Housing, Local Government and Heritage (Supplementary) (16 Oct 2024)

Darragh O'Brien: It was corrected online as well. The same pertains to the disability and adaptation grants.

Select Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Estimates for Public Services 2024
Vote 34 - Housing, Local Government and Heritage (Supplementary) (16 Oct 2024)

Darragh O'Brien: I will check that for the Deputy and I will come back to him during the course of this meeting.

Select Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Estimates for Public Services 2024
Vote 34 - Housing, Local Government and Heritage (Supplementary) (16 Oct 2024)

Darragh O'Brien: I am sorry, I can answer that now. It is the housing adaptation only. I knew it was €25 million but the Deputy is asking what it is-----

Select Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Estimates for Public Services 2024
Vote 34 - Housing, Local Government and Heritage (Supplementary) (16 Oct 2024)

Darragh O'Brien: I have that and I will get it for the Deputy. I brought the planning resourcing update to Cabinet earlier this week.