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Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: National Children’s Hospital: Discussion (9 Oct 2024)

Stephen Donnelly: I do not believe we have a couple of months.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: National Children’s Hospital: Discussion (9 Oct 2024)

Stephen Donnelly: This has to be done urgently.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: National Children’s Hospital: Discussion (9 Oct 2024)

Stephen Donnelly: If I could be so bold, and apologies if I am overstepping here, it is not helpful for Members of the Oireachtas to state that we will be paying the contractor more money than the Government has already stated. It does not help the taxpayer for Members of the Oireachtas to essentially throw more money on the table.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: National Children’s Hospital: Discussion (9 Oct 2024)

Stephen Donnelly: Apologies, Senator, but-----

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: National Children’s Hospital: Discussion (9 Oct 2024)

Stephen Donnelly: All of the structural design and the things that really cost the large sums of money are done. We are in a snagging phase right now.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: National Children’s Hospital: Discussion (9 Oct 2024)

Stephen Donnelly: It is something that would be reviewed by the design team and by the board. In 2019 when it became clear that this was going to cost considerably more than had been communicated, there was a lot of activity at that time. Certainly, by the time this Government was formed, the core structural design was settled.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: National Children’s Hospital: Discussion (9 Oct 2024)

Stephen Donnelly: The Senator will appreciate that the reference made was in the context of a massive increase in the communicated cost.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: National Children’s Hospital: Discussion (9 Oct 2024)

Stephen Donnelly: It has not continued. The amount of money the Government authorised earlier this year was linked to the 2019 agreement so the cost overruns did not continue in the lifetime of this Government. I am afraid the €2.2 billion was referring back to the 2019 agreement. Let me answer the Senator very directly. I have full confidence in the board acting on our behalf. I believe Ms Fiona...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: National Children’s Hospital: Discussion (9 Oct 2024)

Stephen Donnelly: That is a matter for the committee. It is not for me to say.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: National Children’s Hospital: Discussion (9 Oct 2024)

John Lahart: It sounds like Royal BAM is in the room already.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: National Children’s Hospital: Discussion (9 Oct 2024)

John Lahart: It is what it is.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: National Children’s Hospital: Discussion (9 Oct 2024)

Stephen Donnelly: In response to the Deputy's first point, are there lessons we can and have learned? Most definitely. Mr. Tierney is the lead in the Department of Health on the National Maternity Hospital and on the elective hospitals and there was a comprehensive piece of work done which Fiona Ross fed into as well. It has to be remembered we are commencing five other hospitals-----

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: National Children’s Hospital: Discussion (9 Oct 2024)

Stephen Donnelly: Lessons have most definitely been learned. Regarding the criteria for June, I will give my understanding of it. I fully accept BAM may agree or disagree with that. Where I believe we got to was that it was willing to stand over the June deadline with a proviso that there were not design changes that would reasonably delay the project. You might have very minor design changes. In fact,...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: National Children’s Hospital: Discussion (9 Oct 2024)

Stephen Donnelly: Yes. We would have to accept that. Where I believe we have got to is that there would be no substantive design changes. Obviously, I cannot speak for BAM. It may have a different view but certainly that is my clear understanding.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: National Children’s Hospital: Discussion (9 Oct 2024)

Stephen Donnelly: It has committed a totality between the commissioning and the project of €2.2 billion.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: National Children’s Hospital: Discussion (9 Oct 2024)

Stephen Donnelly: Ms Ross can correct me if I am wrong-----

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: National Children’s Hospital: Discussion (9 Oct 2024)

Stephen Donnelly: I will address the point on claims very quickly and then ask Mr. Tierney to give the Deputy the detail.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: National Children’s Hospital: Discussion (9 Oct 2024)

Stephen Donnelly: The totality of claims is €863 million. To date, there has been an agreed €31 million against that.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: National Children’s Hospital: Discussion (9 Oct 2024)

Stephen Donnelly: To the best of my knowledge, Ms Ross can correct me if I am wrong, there has been one major recommendation in BAM's favour.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: National Children’s Hospital: Discussion (9 Oct 2024)

Stephen Donnelly: The main one is €107 or €108 million. That is strongly contested by the board and that is going before the courts. The advice I have from the board is that it has a very strong case on that. If the Deputy would like Ms Ross to say more, she can.

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