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Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: National Children’s Hospital: Discussion (9 Oct 2024)

Stephen Donnelly: It is something that would be reviewed by the design team and by the board. In 2019 when it became clear that this was going to cost considerably more than had been communicated, there was a lot of activity at that time. Certainly, by the time this Government was formed, the core structural design was settled.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: National Children’s Hospital: Discussion (9 Oct 2024)

Stephen Donnelly: The Senator will appreciate that the reference made was in the context of a massive increase in the communicated cost.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: National Children’s Hospital: Discussion (9 Oct 2024)

Stephen Donnelly: It has not continued. The amount of money the Government authorised earlier this year was linked to the 2019 agreement so the cost overruns did not continue in the lifetime of this Government. I am afraid the €2.2 billion was referring back to the 2019 agreement. Let me answer the Senator very directly. I have full confidence in the board acting on our behalf. I believe Ms Fiona...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: National Children’s Hospital: Discussion (9 Oct 2024)

Stephen Donnelly: That is a matter for the committee. It is not for me to say.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: National Children’s Hospital: Discussion (9 Oct 2024)

Alan Kelly: How long do I have?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: National Children’s Hospital: Discussion (9 Oct 2024)

Alan Kelly: I thank the Minister and to the committee for facilitating me. I have a number of questions. I will direct the first to the Minister. I am one of these people who thinks there are two sides to every story. I have huge issues with BAM and how this was designed from day one. If we all went at it again we would not go at it the way it has been done. That is across politics and across...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: National Children’s Hospital: Discussion (9 Oct 2024)

Stephen Donnelly: In response to the Deputy's first point, are there lessons we can and have learned? Most definitely. Mr. Tierney is the lead in the Department of Health on the National Maternity Hospital and on the elective hospitals and there was a comprehensive piece of work done which Fiona Ross fed into as well. It has to be remembered we are commencing five other hospitals-----

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: National Children’s Hospital: Discussion (9 Oct 2024)

Alan Kelly: Yes, I get that. I will concentrate on this one in the limited time.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: National Children’s Hospital: Discussion (9 Oct 2024)

Stephen Donnelly: Lessons have most definitely been learned. Regarding the criteria for June, I will give my understanding of it. I fully accept BAM may agree or disagree with that. Where I believe we got to was that it was willing to stand over the June deadline with a proviso that there were not design changes that would reasonably delay the project. You might have very minor design changes. In fact,...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: National Children’s Hospital: Discussion (9 Oct 2024)

Alan Kelly: It would not be reasonable.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: National Children’s Hospital: Discussion (9 Oct 2024)

Stephen Donnelly: Yes. We would have to accept that. Where I believe we have got to is that there would be no substantive design changes. Obviously, I cannot speak for BAM. It may have a different view but certainly that is my clear understanding.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: National Children’s Hospital: Discussion (9 Oct 2024)

Alan Kelly: How many changes have there been since?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: National Children’s Hospital: Discussion (9 Oct 2024)

Alan Kelly: There has been changes.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: National Children’s Hospital: Discussion (9 Oct 2024)

Alan Kelly: The Government has set aside €0.5 billion to finish off this project.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: National Children’s Hospital: Discussion (9 Oct 2024)

Stephen Donnelly: It has committed a totality between the commissioning and the project of €2.2 billion.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: National Children’s Hospital: Discussion (9 Oct 2024)

Alan Kelly: We know the standing conciliator has made big award towards BAM. What is the €0.5 billion for?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: National Children’s Hospital: Discussion (9 Oct 2024)

Stephen Donnelly: Ms Ross can correct me if I am wrong-----

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: National Children’s Hospital: Discussion (9 Oct 2024)

Alan Kelly: The Minister said before that not a penny more would be given. What is the €0.5 billion more for if it is not a penny more? The standing conciliator has made awards on a number of occasions, unfortunately for the taxpayer. What is that money for if the standing conciliator is making all these awards and the Minister is saying there is not a penny more? A standing conciliator is...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: National Children’s Hospital: Discussion (9 Oct 2024)

Stephen Donnelly: I will address the point on claims very quickly and then ask Mr. Tierney to give the Deputy the detail.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: National Children’s Hospital: Discussion (9 Oct 2024)

Alan Kelly: Briefly, yes.

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