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Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: National Children’s Hospital: Discussion (9 Oct 2024)

David Cullinane: The Minister does not need to hide behind the chair of the board. People will make up their own minds on his performance. I will leave it there. It was not appropriate to ask the chair essentially to answer a charge that I believe stands up or to cover the Minister's back.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: National Children’s Hospital: Discussion (9 Oct 2024)

Stephen Donnelly: May I respond? With respect, it is a charge the Deputy has made many times. I answered it here directly and I have answered it many times.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: National Children’s Hospital: Discussion (9 Oct 2024)

David Cullinane: It was for the Minister to answer.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: National Children’s Hospital: Discussion (9 Oct 2024)

Stephen Donnelly: I did. I have no problem doing so and I do not blame the Deputy for asking the question. This is the chair of the board's first appearance before the committee. The Deputy has made the charge many times. It is not reasonable to suggest that asking for the board's view on the Deputy's challenge is inappropriate.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: National Children’s Hospital: Discussion (9 Oct 2024)

David Cullinane: My charge was that the Minister did not meet the contractor over the course of two years, which he did not.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: National Children’s Hospital: Discussion (9 Oct 2024)

Stephen Donnelly: I hope it was a productive meeting. Let us see what comes out of it. The message I delivered to Royal BAM Group was that the Government and I could not have confidence in a June deadline being reported to us by BAM UK and BAM Ireland and I requested that Royal BAM Group stand over that date. We discussed the fact that BAM has had a good relationship with the Irish State on other capital...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: National Children’s Hospital: Discussion (9 Oct 2024)

Stephen Donnelly: The upshot of the meeting was that Royal BAM Group said it would stand over the June deadline. It has agreed to have intensive engagement with its UK and Ireland operation and with Ms Ross, Mr. Gunning and the rest of the board so that there is a project, for which the board and the independent assessor can say they have confidence the deadline can be met. Second, we have also agreed to...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: National Children’s Hospital: Discussion (9 Oct 2024)

Stephen Donnelly: It was certainly raised at the meeting.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: National Children’s Hospital: Discussion (9 Oct 2024)

Stephen Donnelly: I do not want to characterise its responses, but the Deputy will appreciate that it did not enter the meeting accepting that it was fully at fault for everything.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: National Children’s Hospital: Discussion (9 Oct 2024)

Stephen Donnelly: It is and I stand over it. Obviously, it is something it would dispute.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: National Children’s Hospital: Discussion (9 Oct 2024)

Stephen Donnelly: I do not want to mischaracterise things. These matters were raised over the course of a long meeting. I will not put words in Royal BAM Group's mouth. I think it would be fair to say that I imagine if it were here, it would dispute it. I can be more helpful than that. It wrote a letter in response, in which it refuted that allegation.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: National Children’s Hospital: Discussion (9 Oct 2024)

Stephen Donnelly: I think it was BAM Ireland, but I would have to check.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: National Children’s Hospital: Discussion (9 Oct 2024)

Stephen Donnelly: It has committed to the June deadline. There are several moving parts. As the Deputy mentioned, it includes the compliance work schedule. The board also believes there is a need for more senior management to be on site.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: National Children’s Hospital: Discussion (9 Oct 2024)

Stephen Donnelly: The commitment was that Royal BAM Group would review the full proposal and come back with one it can stand over.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: National Children’s Hospital: Discussion (9 Oct 2024)

Stephen Donnelly: I think it is.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: National Children’s Hospital: Discussion (9 Oct 2024)

Stephen Donnelly: In fairness-----

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: National Children’s Hospital: Discussion (9 Oct 2024)

Stephen Donnelly: No, the meeting was not to begin to deconstruct the draft proposal. It was to discuss getting to deadlines and doing what is required to do so.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: National Children’s Hospital: Discussion (9 Oct 2024)

Stephen Donnelly: We discussed all these issues.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: National Children’s Hospital: Discussion (9 Oct 2024)

Stephen Donnelly: It said it would review its current proposal with the board, so it can stand over it.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: National Children’s Hospital: Discussion (9 Oct 2024)

Stephen Donnelly: We are getting them. The final cost, as referenced by Deputy Cullinane, is the amount that the Government stated, namely €2.2 billion. I was very clear with Royal BAM that the Government is not putting more money on the table. The public has the answer to one of those two questions. In answer to the second question, it is not reasonable to ask the board as to what day it will be...

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