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Written Answers — Department of Health: Health Services (20 Jun 2024)

Rose Conway-Walsh: 209. To ask the Minister for Health how inflation in healthcare costs in the public sector compared to general inflation between 2020 and 2024; and if he will make a statement on the matter. [26657/24]

Written Answers — Department of Health: Home Help Service (20 Jun 2024)

Rose Conway-Walsh: 211. To ask the Minister for Health the number of people waiting for home help who have been approved in each county, in tabular form; and if he will make a statement on the matter. [26662/24]

Written Answers — Department of Health: Home Help Service (20 Jun 2024)

Rose Conway-Walsh: 212. To ask the Minister for Health the percentage of home support hours delivered by health care assistants directly employed by the HSE in each year since 2011, in tabular form; and if he will make a statement on the matter. [26665/24]

International Protection, Asylum and Migration: Motion (Resumed) (19 Jun 2024)

Rose Conway-Walsh: Sinn Féin and I believe Ireland can create a fair and efficient asylum system in a better way. We will vote against the migration and asylum pact. We oppose it for very good reasons. First, it undermines human rights. That has to be the basis of everything. That must be the basis of the message that goes out from this House. All people are equal. I will never support any...

Child Care (Amendment) Bill 2024: Second Stage (19 Jun 2024)

Rose Conway-Walsh: I acknowledge the hard and valuable work the 53,000 childminders across the country do. They fulfil a great role. As a parent, I have experience of this. Not everybody can afford long maternity leave. My two children went to a wonderful childminder, Sheila Wilson. They were part of her family and she provided not just a service but had them as part of her family. I know the difference...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Public Private Partnerships: Discussion (19 Jun 2024)

Rose Conway-Walsh: I thank Mr. Dorgan for his statement. I am really glad to have an opportunity to discuss this matter in greater detail with the witnesses. My first question is on the value for money. Who does the analysis of the PPPs? Is it the contracting Department or is it the Department of Public Expenditure, National Development Plan Delivery and Reform?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Public Private Partnerships: Discussion (19 Jun 2024)

Rose Conway-Walsh: The NDFA-----

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Public Private Partnerships: Discussion (19 Jun 2024)

Rose Conway-Walsh: What role does Department of Public Expenditure, National Development Plan Delivery and Reform play?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Public Private Partnerships: Discussion (19 Jun 2024)

Rose Conway-Walsh: Who would make the decision as to whether something should be a PPP or whether it should be done in another way under some other model? Who makes that decision?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Public Private Partnerships: Discussion (19 Jun 2024)

Rose Conway-Walsh: I am trying to discover the role of the Department when it comes to deciding which pathway to take. Does it have a role?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Public Private Partnerships: Discussion (19 Jun 2024)

Rose Conway-Walsh: I completely understand that, but does the Department have another role? If there is single project, for instance, and the Department is deciding to use PPP or whatever, is it purely down to the Department and the NDFA?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Public Private Partnerships: Discussion (19 Jun 2024)

Rose Conway-Walsh: When Mr. Meaney says "the sponsoring agency" what does he mean?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Public Private Partnerships: Discussion (19 Jun 2024)

Rose Conway-Walsh: Is that whichever Department?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Public Private Partnerships: Discussion (19 Jun 2024)

Rose Conway-Walsh: Right.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Public Private Partnerships: Discussion (19 Jun 2024)

Rose Conway-Walsh: You can understand already how obscure it can seem to people when they are trying to find out whether the money is being used for the right thing. The expert group review from 2018 said that PPP financing was more expensive than State financing. They argued that PPP was suitable for countercyclical investment when it is difficult or expensive for the Government to borrow. Since 2020, we...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Public Private Partnerships: Discussion (19 Jun 2024)

Rose Conway-Walsh: Is Mr. Dorgan saying that it is not really more expensive and the review group was wrong to say that it is more expensive?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Public Private Partnerships: Discussion (19 Jun 2024)

Rose Conway-Walsh: Over what period? For example, if the Department does a five-year PPP, Mr. Meaney and his colleagues will evaluate this and how to make the decision and in which route to go, whether it is the traditional route or the PPP route, over what duration do they do it? Is it over 25 years? Will Mr. Meaney go through how they come to the conclusion that this is best value for money to do it, even...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Public Private Partnerships: Discussion (19 Jun 2024)

Rose Conway-Walsh: All the assets that are done on PPP basis come back to the State. Are they all 25 years or are there ones that take longer?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Public Private Partnerships: Discussion (19 Jun 2024)

Rose Conway-Walsh: Is that for housing.? So absolutely everything comes back. We do not have any contract -----

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Public Private Partnerships: Discussion (19 Jun 2024)

Rose Conway-Walsh: I would be surprised if it was not but the officials might just check it. I want to raise higher education and housing in terms of the decision to go down the PPP route. What is the rationale for those projects?

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