Results 441-460 of 1,052,354 for in 'Dáil debates' OR (speaker:Tom Kitt OR speaker:Marc Ó Cathasaigh OR speaker:Chris Andrews OR speaker:Michael Fitzmaurice OR speaker:Mairead Farrell OR speaker:Noel Grealish OR speaker:Patrick Costello OR speaker:Michael Healy-Rae OR speaker:Paul McAuliffe OR speaker:Roderic O'Gorman) in 'Committee meetings'

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2023: Health Service Executive (24 Oct 2024)

Marc Ó Cathasaigh: I want to deal with non-compliant procurement in the short time remaining. We are talking about a spend of €4.2 billion. The HSE has put the estimate for non-compliant spending at 12%. We have difference there because, apparently, the exercise only covered 38% of the overall spend. Could Mr. Mulvany put a monetary value on it for me because I am making an assumption - it may be...

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2023: Health Service Executive (24 Oct 2024)

Marc Ó Cathasaigh: I guess what I am trying to get at here is whether it is 12% of the cases or 12% of the procurement-----

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2023: Health Service Executive (24 Oct 2024)

Marc Ó Cathasaigh: It really is a significant amount. If that maps out to the €4.2 billion, we are talking about close on €500 million that will en up being non-compliant procurement.

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2023: Health Service Executive (24 Oct 2024)

Marc Ó Cathasaigh: If I map those trends onto the €4.2 billion, we could be talking about a sum of the order of €500 million.

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2023: Health Service Executive (24 Oct 2024)

Marc Ó Cathasaigh: The number, which is staggering, troubles me. Something that worries me more is that one of the reasons we get back for not having that information, on the one hand, is the manager responsible for the expenditure could not be identified centrally. That would very much worry me. Then the flip side is that the identified managers failed to respond to the exercise. When they were asked about...

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2023: Health Service Executive (24 Oct 2024)

Marc Ó Cathasaigh: If I can focus the question specifically, if a local or regional manager does not engage with Mr. Mulvany when he asks the question about non-compliant procurement, is there a sanction that follows?

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2023: Health Service Executive (24 Oct 2024)

Marc Ó Cathasaigh: In the context of those two things - the manager responsible could not be identified which would be on the HSE versus the person did not respond - can Mr. Mulvany provide an indication of where the balance lies?

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2023: Health Service Executive (24 Oct 2024)

Marc Ó Cathasaigh: Not tolerating something and not pursuing it are quite different from having a series of sanctions that apply.

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2023: Health Service Executive (24 Oct 2024)

Marc Ó Cathasaigh: Has that happened in any instances?

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2023: Health Service Executive (24 Oct 2024)

Mairead Farrell: Go raibh maith agat. I am conscious of time. I will allow everyone come back in for five minutes. I will take an Teachta Carthy. Then we will take our break and take a second round.

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2023: Health Service Executive (24 Oct 2024)

Mairead Farrell: Beidh mise mar an chéad cainteoir eile. One issue that has annoyed me for some time, even previously in my role as a city councillor on Galway City Council, is that of agency spend. We have seen that it has gone from a spend of €350 million to €650 million in a four to five year period. If we look at that trend and the figures that we had up until August, it seems that...

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2023: Health Service Executive (24 Oct 2024)

Mairead Farrell: I understand that is the aim but the reality is, when we look at the figures, they do not correspond to what the aim is.

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2023: Health Service Executive (24 Oct 2024)

Mairead Farrell: If the HSE wants to reduce it then holding it steady is not equating to the aim.

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2023: Health Service Executive (24 Oct 2024)

Mairead Farrell: How long does Mr. Gloster think that will take to have an impact?

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2023: Health Service Executive (24 Oct 2024)

Mairead Farrell: Does Mr. Gloster think it could have an impact on this year?

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2023: Health Service Executive (24 Oct 2024)

Mairead Farrell: Before quarter 3 of last year. When does Mr. Gloster expect it to be at 2019 levels or does he not see that at all?

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2023: Health Service Executive (24 Oct 2024)

Mairead Farrell: For some time. I can see from the spend on the management and administration that the HSE has gone from €29 million to €86 million in those areas. One of the frustrations for people - and it is not always a frustration that is based on facts, it can be based on experience and we have heard quite powerfully from an Teachta Cannon his own experience of getting the piece of paper...

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2023: Health Service Executive (24 Oct 2024)

Mairead Farrell: Mr. Gloster stated that he had a staff of approximately 166,000. There is considerable frustration about agency spend in general, particularly given that there are many people who want to get good jobs in the HSE. This expenditure on agency and management and administration basically represents a trebling of the previous amount. Why has it increased to this level in such a short period?

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2023: Health Service Executive (24 Oct 2024)

Mairead Farrell: But this is €86 million.

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2023: Health Service Executive (24 Oct 2024)

Mairead Farrell: Covid was an exceptional time,-----