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Committee on Defence and National Security: General Scheme of the Defence (Amendment) Bill 2025 : Discussion (Resumed) (19 Jun 2025)

Rose Conway-Walsh: I thank Dr. Burke and Senator Tom Clonan. We will have another round. Next is Deputy Maeve O'Connell. She will be followed by Deputies Duncan Smith and Ó Laoghaire.

Committee on Defence and National Security: General Scheme of the Defence (Amendment) Bill 2025 : Discussion (Resumed) (19 Jun 2025)

Rose Conway-Walsh: I am just reminding the Deputy of time in case Dr. Burke wishes to contribute.

Committee on Defence and National Security: General Scheme of the Defence (Amendment) Bill 2025 : Discussion (Resumed) (19 Jun 2025)

Rose Conway-Walsh: Just a short contribution, maybe.

Committee on Defence and National Security: General Scheme of the Defence (Amendment) Bill 2025 : Discussion (Resumed) (19 Jun 2025)

Rose Conway-Walsh: I have to cut it there. We have four permanent members left, namely Deputies Ó Laoghaire and Callaghan, Senator Gallagher and Deputy Brabazon. I will then allow the other Members present to have five minutes each.

Committee on Defence and National Security: General Scheme of the Defence (Amendment) Bill 2025 : Discussion (Resumed) (19 Jun 2025)

Rose Conway-Walsh: Thank you, Mr. Power. I am afraid we have run out of time but, in answering the other questions from other members, I ask that you respond to some of the other points Deputy Ó Laoghaire made.

Committee on Defence and National Security: General Scheme of the Defence (Amendment) Bill 2025 : Discussion (Resumed) (19 Jun 2025)

Rose Conway-Walsh: I now move on to the non-permanent members, starting with Senator Alice-Mary Higgins and then Deputy Sinéad Gibney. I remind members that it is five minutes each and to make the best use of their time. I will then go back to permanent members for anybody who wishes to have a supplementary question. We are finishing at 11.30 a.m.

Committee on Defence and National Security: General Scheme of the Defence (Amendment) Bill 2025 : Discussion (Resumed) (19 Jun 2025)

Rose Conway-Walsh: Senator-----

Committee on Defence and National Security: General Scheme of the Defence (Amendment) Bill 2025 : Discussion (Resumed) (19 Jun 2025)

Rose Conway-Walsh: The Senator has an opportunity to link it to the legislation.

Committee on Defence and National Security: General Scheme of the Defence (Amendment) Bill 2025 : Discussion (Resumed) (19 Jun 2025)

Rose Conway-Walsh: Yes.

Committee on Defence and National Security: General Scheme of the Defence (Amendment) Bill 2025 : Discussion (Resumed) (19 Jun 2025)

Rose Conway-Walsh: The question.

Committee on Defence and National Security: General Scheme of the Defence (Amendment) Bill 2025 : Discussion (Resumed) (19 Jun 2025)

Rose Conway-Walsh: We need the question.

Committee on Defence and National Security: General Scheme of the Defence (Amendment) Bill 2025 : Discussion (Resumed) (19 Jun 2025)

Rose Conway-Walsh: We have just over a minute for both witnesses to cover that.

Committee on Defence and National Security: General Scheme of the Defence (Amendment) Bill 2025 : Discussion (Resumed) (19 Jun 2025)

Rose Conway-Walsh: The Senator is out of time.

Committee on Defence and National Security: General Scheme of the Defence (Amendment) Bill 2025 : Discussion (Resumed) (19 Jun 2025)

Rose Conway-Walsh: I have to cut it off there-----

Committee on Defence and National Security: General Scheme of the Defence (Amendment) Bill 2025 : Discussion (Resumed) (19 Jun 2025)

Rose Conway-Walsh: -----because Dr. Burke wants to make one comment on it.

Committee on Defence and National Security: General Scheme of the Defence (Amendment) Bill 2025 : Discussion (Resumed) (19 Jun 2025)

Rose Conway-Walsh: I have allowed extra time, so I am going to have cut it off at that.

Committee on Defence and National Security: General Scheme of the Defence (Amendment) Bill 2025 : Discussion (Resumed) (19 Jun 2025)

Rose Conway-Walsh: With respect, I have allowed a minute and a half extra.

Committee on Defence and National Security: General Scheme of the Defence (Amendment) Bill 2025 : Discussion (Resumed) (19 Jun 2025)

Rose Conway-Walsh: What we will do-----

Committee on Defence and National Security: General Scheme of the Defence (Amendment) Bill 2025 : Discussion (Resumed) (19 Jun 2025)

Rose Conway-Walsh: Yes, but the Senator's time is up and I have allowed her in.

Committee on Defence and National Security: General Scheme of the Defence (Amendment) Bill 2025 : Discussion (Resumed) (19 Jun 2025)

Rose Conway-Walsh: I would ask the witnesses to maybe finish answering that question in a written contribution to the committee, if that is okay. That is what we have done on other occasions when we have been cut short. I want to be fair to every member on this committee. I will move on to Deputy Gibney now.

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