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Public Accounts Committee: 2022 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 30 - Agriculture, Food and the Marine (11 Jul 2024)

Brian Stanley: So, old racehorses could have been used.

Public Accounts Committee: 2022 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 30 - Agriculture, Food and the Marine (11 Jul 2024)

Brian Stanley: Okay.

Public Accounts Committee: 2022 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 30 - Agriculture, Food and the Marine (11 Jul 2024)

Brian Stanley: The licence for this plant was revoked. I understand the certificate regarding animal welfare has been revoked. Is that correct?

Public Accounts Committee: 2022 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 30 - Agriculture, Food and the Marine (11 Jul 2024)

Brian Stanley: Is that regarding somebody who would have a role in animal welfare?

Public Accounts Committee: 2022 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 30 - Agriculture, Food and the Marine (11 Jul 2024)

Brian Stanley: That has been revoked, so all is good with that. However, the horses were moved. Were they moved with the Department's approval?

Public Accounts Committee: 2022 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 30 - Agriculture, Food and the Marine (11 Jul 2024)

Brian Stanley: They have been moved.

Public Accounts Committee: 2022 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 30 - Agriculture, Food and the Marine (11 Jul 2024)

Brian Stanley: For legal reasons, Mr. Blake is not able to clarify whether they were moved with Department approval or not.

Public Accounts Committee: 2022 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 30 - Agriculture, Food and the Marine (11 Jul 2024)

Brian Stanley: For legal reasons, Mr. Blake is not able to clarify this morning whether they have been moved with Department approval.

Public Accounts Committee: 2022 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 30 - Agriculture, Food and the Marine (11 Jul 2024)

Brian Stanley: Okay.

Public Accounts Committee: 2022 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 30 - Agriculture, Food and the Marine (11 Jul 2024)

Brian Stanley: There is just something peculiar about it. I would have thought in a situation like that, the horses would be seized, and that once that came to light, the Department would move straight away. I have seen the Department seizing animals before very quickly.

Public Accounts Committee: 2022 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 30 - Agriculture, Food and the Marine (11 Jul 2024)

Brian Stanley: Would that normally be the default position, though? I do not want to be too specific about this but generally when there is a question of serious animal cruelty-----

Public Accounts Committee: 2022 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 30 - Agriculture, Food and the Marine (11 Jul 2024)

Brian Stanley: What was shown on TV would not lead to concerns that there might be an immediate threat to animal welfare. The Department made a judgment not to seize the animals. That means what was shown on the "RTÉ Investigates" programme was not judged to be of an extent that there was an immediate threat to animal welfare on that particular farm complex.

Public Accounts Committee: 2022 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 30 - Agriculture, Food and the Marine (11 Jul 2024)

Brian Stanley: I understand that.

Public Accounts Committee: 2022 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 30 - Agriculture, Food and the Marine (11 Jul 2024)

Brian Stanley: I know that. I am just trying to establish a pattern. The horses were not seized by the Department.

Public Accounts Committee: 2022 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 30 - Agriculture, Food and the Marine (11 Jul 2024)

Brian Stanley: Would I be correct in saying that where serious animal welfare concerns are raised regarding the treatment of animals, and it is within buildings or on lands, the Department will regularly seize those animals?

Public Accounts Committee: 2022 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 30 - Agriculture, Food and the Marine (11 Jul 2024)

Brian Stanley: I have seen it.

Public Accounts Committee: 2022 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 30 - Agriculture, Food and the Marine (11 Jul 2024)

Brian Stanley: Rightly so, by the way.

Public Accounts Committee: 2022 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 30 - Agriculture, Food and the Marine (11 Jul 2024)

Brian Stanley: What will happen with the horses that were to be slaughtered? Are they being brought to slaughtering plants where there are other animals such as cattle or sheep being slaughtered? Is that likely to happen? I am asking this in a general way because members of the public are genuinely concerned about animals. People are horrified at what they saw. Obviously, these animals are going to be...

Public Accounts Committee: 2022 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 30 - Agriculture, Food and the Marine (11 Jul 2024)

Brian Stanley: If a plant has to be used. None of them have been slaughtered yet, I take it.

Public Accounts Committee: 2022 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 30 - Agriculture, Food and the Marine (11 Jul 2024)

Brian Stanley: Yes, but something has to be done with these horses now. They were going to be slaughtered. What I am asking does not impinge in any way on the DPP case being taken. Those horses are to be slaughtered. I am aware since last week that there was only one horse slaughtering plant approved in the State. It is no longer approved, so we do not have any now. I am asking what happens to horses...