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Committee on Scrutiny of Draft EU-related Statutory Instruments: Engagement with Minister of State at the Department of Foreign Affairs (17 Jul 2024)

Jennifer Carroll MacNeill: But I am telling you something important.

Committee on Scrutiny of Draft EU-related Statutory Instruments: Engagement with Minister of State at the Department of Foreign Affairs (17 Jul 2024)

Michael McDowell: No, no. I asked you a plain, simple question.

Committee on Scrutiny of Draft EU-related Statutory Instruments: Engagement with Minister of State at the Department of Foreign Affairs (17 Jul 2024)

Jennifer Carroll MacNeill: And I am answering it.

Committee on Scrutiny of Draft EU-related Statutory Instruments: Engagement with Minister of State at the Department of Foreign Affairs (17 Jul 2024)

Michael McDowell: No, no. I am asking you a simple, plain question. If it is alright for a Minister to show a draft statutory instrument to an interested sectoral body, how is it wrong for him or her to show it to us in this committee?

Committee on Scrutiny of Draft EU-related Statutory Instruments: Engagement with Minister of State at the Department of Foreign Affairs (17 Jul 2024)

Jennifer Carroll MacNeill: The point I am trying to get to, in order to answer your question, is that I would like to spend more time reflecting on that. One way I can usefully do that is by investigating the process to date, the extent to which there has been outside consultation, the circumstances under which that was understood and whether privilege was indeed attached to that. I can get a better answer and a...

Committee on Scrutiny of Draft EU-related Statutory Instruments: Engagement with Minister of State at the Department of Foreign Affairs (17 Jul 2024)

Michael McDowell: I appreciate that-----

Committee on Scrutiny of Draft EU-related Statutory Instruments: Engagement with Minister of State at the Department of Foreign Affairs (17 Jul 2024)

Jennifer Carroll MacNeill: Sorry, Senator, I have not finished. I want to do this because I have a question in regard to the process. When I said to the Senator I did not agree with him on the first point, it was in the context that I have a question that is yet unresolved in my mind. It may well be that there cannot be a way to proceed other than what I have outlined. However, I want to go through the process of...

Committee on Scrutiny of Draft EU-related Statutory Instruments: Engagement with Minister of State at the Department of Foreign Affairs (17 Jul 2024)

Michael McDowell: There are two points to consider. There is the question of principle. If a Minister or a Department, before signing a document to make a regulation, can, or, in certain circumstances, is required to, consult a third party like An Taisce, that document cannot be the subject of such legal professional privilege that it cannot be shown to this committee. The Minister of State either accepts...

Committee on Scrutiny of Draft EU-related Statutory Instruments: Engagement with Minister of State at the Department of Foreign Affairs (17 Jul 2024)

Jennifer Carroll MacNeill: I do not deal in black and white. I do not deal in the theoretical. I deal in trying to establish as much data as I possibly can. For example, I want to know whether all the bodies in question are statutory bodies or external, non-statutory bodies.

Committee on Scrutiny of Draft EU-related Statutory Instruments: Engagement with Minister of State at the Department of Foreign Affairs (17 Jul 2024)

Michael McDowell: If we take An Taisce, which, as a prescribed body, has to be consulted on some issues-----

Committee on Scrutiny of Draft EU-related Statutory Instruments: Engagement with Minister of State at the Department of Foreign Affairs (17 Jul 2024)

Jennifer Carroll MacNeill: That is exactly what I would like to examine. The Senator can either ask me to give every answer today or he can let me do more work. I would like to do more work on this. I am not accepting anything on principle because I have more work to do.

Committee on Scrutiny of Draft EU-related Statutory Instruments: Engagement with Minister of State at the Department of Foreign Affairs (17 Jul 2024)

Michael McDowell: I have asked a simple question of principle. I am being told it cannot be answered because the Minister of State has not looked at practical examples. In setting out the Attorney Genera's advice, she stated the following: Unless and until a Minister makes the regulation, every iteration of the draft regulation, stamped or unstamped, is subject to legal professional privilege and cannot be...

Committee on Scrutiny of Draft EU-related Statutory Instruments: Engagement with Minister of State at the Department of Foreign Affairs (17 Jul 2024)

Jennifer Carroll MacNeill: I said a version of what the Senator has stated. In my subsequent remarks, I softened it to specifically say I would come back to the committee later because I want to address the matter further.

Committee on Scrutiny of Draft EU-related Statutory Instruments: Engagement with Minister of State at the Department of Foreign Affairs (17 Jul 2024)

Michael McDowell: However, in the meantime, we will see nothing until it is law.

Committee on Scrutiny of Draft EU-related Statutory Instruments: Engagement with Minister of State at the Department of Foreign Affairs (17 Jul 2024)

Jennifer Carroll MacNeill: I am here as a Minister of State who wants to work to get as much as possible done for this committee. I am asking for the opportunity to do more work, which I think will be of benefit to the committee. The Senator can either work with me or not.

Committee on Scrutiny of Draft EU-related Statutory Instruments: Engagement with Minister of State at the Department of Foreign Affairs (17 Jul 2024)

Jennifer Carroll MacNeill: I disagree.

Committee on Scrutiny of Draft EU-related Statutory Instruments: Engagement with Minister of State at the Department of Foreign Affairs (17 Jul 2024)

Jennifer Carroll MacNeill: I ask the Senator to let me answer. I think I can be helpful. May I do so, a Chathaoirligh?

Committee on Scrutiny of Draft EU-related Statutory Instruments: Engagement with Minister of State at the Department of Foreign Affairs (17 Jul 2024)

Jennifer Carroll MacNeill: Senator Daly knows I want to see this committee working as well as possible. I hear what he is saying. However, the way he is saying it is to suggest that everything is being done in secret, absent any other processes. It is as though these laws are being produced entirely in secret without other processes coexisting with them. Let us not forget-----

Committee on Scrutiny of Draft EU-related Statutory Instruments: Engagement with Minister of State at the Department of Foreign Affairs (17 Jul 2024)

Jennifer Carroll MacNeill: Statutory instruments are the product of a legislative process in which Ireland is fully participating. Irish MEPs are participating in it, as is the Government. Oireachtas sectoral committees have the power to scrutinise such proposals at a much earlier stage. Scrutiny is happening at every level. There are also the existing post hoc annulment powers of the Oireachtas, which remain-----

Committee on Scrutiny of Draft EU-related Statutory Instruments: Engagement with Minister of State at the Department of Foreign Affairs (17 Jul 2024)

Jennifer Carroll MacNeill: I have to state it.

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