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Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Impact of Peat Shortages on the Horticulture Industry: Discussion (Resumed) (9 Nov 2022)

Pippa Hackett: The Deputy is taking that somewhat out of context. It was part of the debate in the Dáil a few weeks ago.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Impact of Peat Shortages on the Horticulture Industry: Discussion (Resumed) (9 Nov 2022)

Pippa Hackett: It was a reference to a comment that had been made to me. I will look at it to confirm what it was related to.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Impact of Peat Shortages on the Horticulture Industry: Discussion (Resumed) (9 Nov 2022)

Pippa Hackett: I thank the Senator. I accept the lateness of the report. I was only notified last Thursday of my appearance before the committee today. To clarify, while we have had the reports for a while, we had to engage across Government to reach agreement to publish the reports; that was only agreed last week, which is why everything is a bit late. The notification was not very long for me. I...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Impact of Peat Shortages on the Horticulture Industry: Discussion (Resumed) (9 Nov 2022)

Pippa Hackett: The producer organisation one is different.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Impact of Peat Shortages on the Horticulture Industry: Discussion (Resumed) (9 Nov 2022)

Pippa Hackett: I thank the Senator and appreciate his comments and his acknowledgement of the difficulty within this in the sector. We commissioned the KPMG report and it highlighted concerns but also the opportunity, and we have to look for the opportunity here. We are embarking on writing a strategy for the horticulture sector and when I met the horticulture industry forum on 26 October, it was a very...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Impact of Peat Shortages on the Horticulture Industry: Discussion (Resumed) (9 Nov 2022)

Pippa Hackett: I thank Deputy Ring. Nobody is closing anything down. The Government is not closing anything down in the horticulture sector-----

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Impact of Peat Shortages on the Horticulture Industry: Discussion (Resumed) (9 Nov 2022)

Pippa Hackett: We need to be clear. There is no ban on peat extraction and nothing is being stopped. Nothing has changed in relation to that. People must be compliant as they always must be. The extractors have to become compliant. That has always been the case. Nothing has changed in relation to the regulations or laws. That is still the case. It is still possible to extract peat but it must be...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Impact of Peat Shortages on the Horticulture Industry: Discussion (Resumed) (9 Nov 2022)

Pippa Hackett: We have not changed it. The fact is that court cases found that people were not compliant-----

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Impact of Peat Shortages on the Horticulture Industry: Discussion (Resumed) (9 Nov 2022)

Pippa Hackett: It is not the Green Party-----

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Impact of Peat Shortages on the Horticulture Industry: Discussion (Resumed) (9 Nov 2022)

Pippa Hackett: This is not about the Green Party; this is about law. It is about EU law-----

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Impact of Peat Shortages on the Horticulture Industry: Discussion (Resumed) (9 Nov 2022)

Pippa Hackett: Change EU law?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Impact of Peat Shortages on the Horticulture Industry: Discussion (Resumed) (9 Nov 2022)

Pippa Hackett: The law is as it is and we should encourage everyone to comply with the law. Nobody should encourage anyone to not comply with the law. The law is there and people can become compliant if they engage. That is what we are always asking, that is, that they engage with the process. We want to help them engage with the process. The Government wants to help people to engage with the process....

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Impact of Peat Shortages on the Horticulture Industry: Discussion (Resumed) (9 Nov 2022)

Pippa Hackett: The future is alternatives and the sector appreciates that. The Deputy can shake his head all he likes but the sector appreciates that.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Impact of Peat Shortages on the Horticulture Industry: Discussion (Resumed) (9 Nov 2022)

Pippa Hackett: We are in this transitional phase. My Department is doing everything it can within its remit to address what we can do. We have done that really well and in fact have probably gone beyond our remit in terms of the working paper and recruiting experts to help in this field.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Impact of Peat Shortages on the Horticulture Industry: Discussion (Resumed) (9 Nov 2022)

Pippa Hackett: I am basing that on the feedback directly from the sector. They are not coming to us saying there will be a drop. They have existing stocks even if we may not know what the existing stocks are. They are relying on existing stocks and, certainly, importation.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Impact of Peat Shortages on the Horticulture Industry: Discussion (Resumed) (9 Nov 2022)

Pippa Hackett: The Senator has highlighted this collective approach across Government and with the relevant Ministers and I agree that we need it. Nobody wants to go around in circles and I accept she has that opinion of the situation but it is an unfair categorisation because we have moved on. It is unfair to say we have ignored recommendations. The principal remit of the very first Prasad working group...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Impact of Peat Shortages on the Horticulture Industry: Discussion (Resumed) (9 Nov 2022)

Pippa Hackett: Just to say there is a legal process in place. Peat extraction has not been banned. There is no need to change the legislation if people-----

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Impact of Peat Shortages on the Horticulture Industry: Discussion (Resumed) (9 Nov 2022)

Pippa Hackett: Most of the extractors have not engaged with the process.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Impact of Peat Shortages on the Horticulture Industry: Discussion (Resumed) (9 Nov 2022)

Pippa Hackett: They are not engaging with it.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Impact of Peat Shortages on the Horticulture Industry: Discussion (Resumed) (9 Nov 2022)

Pippa Hackett: I understand the difficulties and I do not want to wash my hands of this.

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