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Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2022: University of Limerick (9 May 2024)

Cormac Devlin: From the time of its inception in January, at what stage was the contract signed or approved?

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2022: University of Limerick (9 May 2024)

Cormac Devlin: Eight months.

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2022: University of Limerick (9 May 2024)

Cormac Devlin: I will come back to Professor Kilcommins. There are various reports, investigations, or whatever he would like to call them. Let us call them reports to be polite. They are from Deloitte, KPMG and Mazars. There is also the Thorn report and the current report from Ms NĂ­amh O'Donoghue. I am dizzy with the number of reports that have been conducted within UL. I do not know who from...

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2022: University of Limerick (9 May 2024)

Cormac Devlin: We had engaged on that.

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2022: University of Limerick (9 May 2024)

Cormac Devlin: It is autonomous.

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2022: University of Limerick (9 May 2024)

Cormac Devlin: I have got that.

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2022: University of Limerick (9 May 2024)

Cormac Devlin: Except of course in the situation we are facing now.

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2022: University of Limerick (9 May 2024)

Cormac Devlin: I have two minutes but go ahead.

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2022: University of Limerick (9 May 2024)

Cormac Devlin: Absolutely.

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2022: University of Limerick (9 May 2024)

Cormac Devlin: How often does the HEA engage with UL?

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2022: University of Limerick (9 May 2024)

Cormac Devlin: Did that not change, given this litany of reports? Did that not change, even from 2015? Let us go back to that report from Deloitte. Even from that, did the HEA not say that this university may need a monthly meeting?

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2022: University of Limerick (9 May 2024)

Cormac Devlin: Was it monthly?

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2022: University of Limerick (9 May 2024)

Cormac Devlin: But Dunnes was earlier, in 2020.

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2022: University of Limerick (9 May 2024)

Cormac Devlin: Let us go back to Deloitte.

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2022: University of Limerick (9 May 2024)

Cormac Devlin: I will just ask the questions. From 2015, into 2016 with the Mazars report, and up to 2019 with the KPMG report, there are different reports year after year for different issues. Did the HEA not decide there was a problem in UL? Different personalities had come through the doors, yet the problems persisted. Did the HEA not say it had a problem there, regardless of the spending code?

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2022: University of Limerick (9 May 2024)

Cormac Devlin: What did it do?

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2022: University of Limerick (9 May 2024)

Cormac Devlin: When did the new Act come in?

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2022: University of Limerick (9 May 2024)

Cormac Devlin: What about prior to 2022? Let us forget 2020, 2021 and 2022. Prior to that in 2015, five years earlier, did the HEA not act quicker?

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2022: University of Limerick (9 May 2024)

Cormac Devlin: It is not personal.

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2022: University of Limerick (9 May 2024)

Cormac Devlin: I am talking about the organisation. Did the HEA, which is charged with good governance, not say from 2015 that it will have more than a quarterly report and casual engagement with the University of Limerick?

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