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Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: General Scheme of the National Cyber Security Bill 2024: Cyber Ireland (17 Oct 2024)

Alan Farrell: Good afternoon everyone. Apologies have been received from Senator Craughwelll and Deputy Duncan Smith. The purpose of today's meeting of the joint committee is to discuss pre-legislative scrutiny of the National Cyber Security Bill 2024. I am very pleased to welcome Mr. Brian Honan, chairman of Cyber Ireland. I thank him for his attendance. I remind witnesses of the long-standing...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: General Scheme of the National Cyber Security Bill 2024: Cyber Ireland (17 Oct 2024)

Alan Farrell: I thank Mr. Honan for a comprehensive and informative opening statement. It is very much appreciated by the committee as it gives us a good steer on what is at the moment only the heads of a Bill. That gives us an idea but we have to flesh out this process to ensure that we capture as many third-party views as possible, such as those of Cyber Ireland and the organisations it represents, as...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: General Scheme of the National Cyber Security Bill 2024: Cyber Ireland (17 Oct 2024)

Alan Farrell: In a slightly broader question then, in Mr. Honan’s opinion, are the agencies of this State that will be responsible for the regulation of those entities adequately resourced? Do they have the relevant competencies or is this going to be outsourced?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: General Scheme of the National Cyber Security Bill 2024: Cyber Ireland (17 Oct 2024)

Alan Farrell: That was one of my questions in respect of the Department of Further and Higher Education, Research Innovation and Science or DFHERIS as it is known in the building. Are we providing enough courses and capacity within our third level sector to facilitate that?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: General Scheme of the National Cyber Security Bill 2024: Cyber Ireland (17 Oct 2024)

Alan Farrell: Is there such a standard within the European Union, for example?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: General Scheme of the National Cyber Security Bill 2024: Cyber Ireland (17 Oct 2024)

Alan Farrell: That leads me to Mr. Honan's remarks on the cost to businesses. He estimated it at €32 billion across the EU. Has he estimated or best guesstimated a figure for Ireland?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: General Scheme of the National Cyber Security Bill 2024: Cyber Ireland (17 Oct 2024)

Alan Farrell: Please do.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: General Scheme of the National Cyber Security Bill 2024: Cyber Ireland (17 Oct 2024)

Alan Farrell: In Mr. Honan's opinion, is there any mechanism to mitigate those costs for businesses? I do not think we are talking about small firms but, that being said, 25% of a firm's IT-related budget is still a very significant cost and would be quite something for the accountants to swallow. In the Irish context, most of these firms are going to be very significant players in the market and they...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: General Scheme of the National Cyber Security Bill 2024: Cyber Ireland (17 Oct 2024)

Alan Farrell: Mr. Honan has introduced a new concept to me, namely, "technological sovereignty". I have reread this section and I am struggling with it. Perhaps he could help me a little. Is he talking about a potential loss of competitive edge as a result of this?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: General Scheme of the National Cyber Security Bill 2024: Cyber Ireland (17 Oct 2024)

Alan Farrell: Some of us have been in the clouds for quite a while.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: General Scheme of the National Cyber Security Bill 2024: Cyber Ireland (17 Oct 2024)

Alan Farrell: Yes, I understand that. I will go back to the educational side, and the pathway into the sector to provide the level of expertise we will require on an ongoing basis, not just as a result of this proposal but because of the growth within the sector. It is very easy for me to say it is likely that we have yet to do enough, but we probably have proposals to expand capacity. Is that Mr....

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: General Scheme of the National Cyber Security Bill 2024: Cyber Ireland (17 Oct 2024)

Alan Farrell: That is very interesting. As a committee, we might write to the National Council for Curriculum and Assessment and ask for its opinion on that. It would be interesting to hear from it, and it would certainly be helpful for the committee in compiling its report to the Houses. I promise members that I have just two more questions. I am sorry. A cybersecurity campus is a nice idea. It...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: General Scheme of the National Cyber Security Bill 2024: Cyber Ireland (17 Oct 2024)

Alan Farrell: As we know, because they got themselves into a bit of hot water about it, some of our third level constituents have, to be fair, developed technology which has been quite competitive. There certainly is an option for this. It is an interesting area and I welcome the discussion on it. My next point is on governance and oversight, on which Mr. Honan might have a view. I am a member of the...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: General Scheme of the National Cyber Security Bill 2024: Cyber Ireland (17 Oct 2024)

Alan Farrell: My interest in and curiosity about the oversight were sparked by an article in The Sunday Times a few weeks ago. I thought it would be an interesting question to Mr. Honan as an industry representative. On reflection for later, do any of the firms which Mr. Honan represents have a particular view on this? Mr. Honan might ask, as we are interested in this feedback if it is possible. I...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: General Scheme of the National Cyber Security Bill 2024: Cyber Ireland (17 Oct 2024)

Alan Farrell: It is really about building resilience, is it not? Mr. Honan has talked about the strata of Bills and arrangements made to bring this up. Education is clearly one of these. I refer to the provision of courses at third level and also, as I have said, writing to the National Council for Curriculum and Assessment to ask what it is doing in this sphere. That would be very helpful to us. We...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: General Scheme of the National Cyber Security Bill 2024: Cyber Ireland (17 Oct 2024)

Alan Farrell: Or is it nation state specific?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: General Scheme of the National Cyber Security Bill 2024: Cyber Ireland (17 Oct 2024)

Alan Farrell: I presume the bar applied by the High Court would be particularly high.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: General Scheme of the National Cyber Security Bill 2024: Cyber Ireland (17 Oct 2024)

Alan Farrell: I thank Mr. Honan. Unless he wishes to make any final remarks, I think that is it.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: General Scheme of the National Cyber Security Bill 2024: Cyber Ireland (17 Oct 2024)

Alan Farrell: I think you have. It has been a pleasure having you before the committee to discuss this important matter.

Visit of Czech Delegation (17 Oct 2024)

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