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Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: General Scheme of the Conclusion of IBRC Special Liquidation and Dissolution of NAMA Bill: Department of Finance (18 Sep 2024)

Catherine Murphy: I am not a member of the committee but I thank the Cathaoirleach very much for giving me the opportunity.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: General Scheme of the Conclusion of IBRC Special Liquidation and Dissolution of NAMA Bill: Department of Finance (18 Sep 2024)

Catherine Murphy: I thank the Cathaoirleach. We all knew both the IBRC and NAMA would be wound down at some point. We are talking about the circumstances which allowed that to happen. I always take issue with the term "profit". If the loans were transferred to NAMA at par value, you would be talking about profit, but when talking about loans handed over with a very significant haircut, the word "surplus"...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: General Scheme of the Conclusion of IBRC Special Liquidation and Dissolution of NAMA Bill: Department of Finance (18 Sep 2024)

Catherine Murphy: We are talking about a very small number of records transferring in the context of this legislation. Mr. Carville is telling me that despite the pain felt by the public, they will never actually have an opportunity to get some sort of historical overview of what happened. There would be records there to provide a chronology of that but they will be destroyed. Have the records prior to the...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: General Scheme of the Conclusion of IBRC Special Liquidation and Dissolution of NAMA Bill: Department of Finance (18 Sep 2024)

Catherine Murphy: I find it extraordinary, given the pain that people felt, that they are not going to, at any point, be able to see some of the records. I understand that people's names and certain personal details could not be released but I do not understand why even a general range of things or some of the records relating to some of the biggest transactions would not be held for at least a period of time...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: General Scheme of the Conclusion of IBRC Special Liquidation and Dissolution of NAMA Bill: Department of Finance (18 Sep 2024)

Catherine Murphy: It would require change in other legislation to stop that from happening, and that would have a bearing on liquidations generally. Is that what Mr. Carville is saying? Could it be specific to particular liquidations?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: General Scheme of the Conclusion of IBRC Special Liquidation and Dissolution of NAMA Bill: Department of Finance (18 Sep 2024)

Catherine Murphy: Okay. I might pursue that in a different direction. Mr. Carville talked about other jurisdictions and how NAMA was constructed. There were obviously flaws in the legislation in that there were people who may well have been a director. There was certainly a difficulty with the definitions in the legislation. On the face of it, there are people who got back control of their assets. Is...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: General Scheme of the Conclusion of IBRC Special Liquidation and Dissolution of NAMA Bill: Department of Finance (18 Sep 2024)

Catherine Murphy: We all probably hope that something like this will not happen again. However, it is important to make sure we learn some lessons from it in terms of deficiencies. I thank the witnesses.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: Productivity and Savings Task Force: Discussion (18 Sep 2024)

Gino Kenny: Has anything been put in place to mitigate against that?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: Productivity and Savings Task Force: Discussion (18 Sep 2024)

Gino Kenny: In Mr. Gloster's view, how is that progress?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: Productivity and Savings Task Force: Discussion (18 Sep 2024)

Gino Kenny: What does that mean in practical terms for somebody who wants to access a service if they are working on a Saturday?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: Productivity and Savings Task Force: Discussion (18 Sep 2024)

Gino Kenny: That will have an effect on people accessing public healthcare and so on. I have another question that I will direct to Mr. Gloster. It relates to private nursing homes essentially going to the wall. There have been a number of cases this year, including Lucan Lodge and a nursing home in Kerry, I believe. They are care providers that have been there for a period and that lost their...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: Productivity and Savings Task Force: Discussion (18 Sep 2024)

Gino Kenny: I can imagine.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: Productivity and Savings Task Force: Discussion (18 Sep 2024)

Gino Kenny: At a huge cost.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: Productivity and Savings Task Force: Discussion (18 Sep 2024)

Gino Kenny: At an enormous cost.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: Productivity and Savings Task Force: Discussion (18 Sep 2024)

Gino Kenny: I acknowledge the human damage this does. You could not put a price on it. Is there a growing trend of care providers leaving the mess to the HSE, at enormous cost, when private care provision is not profitable enough?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: Productivity and Savings Task Force: Discussion (18 Sep 2024)

Gino Kenny: In how many instances in, say, the past two years has the HSE had to intervene directly?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: Productivity and Savings Task Force: Discussion (18 Sep 2024)

Gino Kenny: Ultimately, the HSE has to intervene. We are not arguing against that but it comes at a huge cost, with damage done to the residents. What does the HSE ultimately do? Does the nursing home close down? Can the HSE intervene directly and take over a facility completely, as with Lucan Lodge? Lucan Lodge is a great facility-----

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