Michael Kennedy (Dublin North, Fianna Fail)

We must get those savings. It would be wonderful if we negotiated them, but the 400,000 odd people who unfortunately have no jobs today do not look at it that way. They envy those with protected jobs with an index-linked pension at a rate that applies to the salary of the existing incumbents. Those people are very envious. The Labour Party should encourage its friends in the trade union movement to get real and put the country's interest first.

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