Verona Murphy (Wexford, Independent)

Okay. It is very much the case that Rhebogue is the second incident. The gate was being closed after the horse had bolted. That is as much down to how the Department proceeds as the college itself, and the governance and the authority. If we got to Rhebogue, there was a problem. I am not blaming anybody. I am pointing out facts. If Dr. Wall is not prepared to say the HEA was actually misled and given undertakings that clearly could not have been anything-----