Mary Lou McDonald (Dublin Central, Sinn Fein) | Oireachtas source

I am not aware of that. This just gets stranger at every turn. Does the witness know how this looks? To the innocent eye, it looks as if this business was set up specifically with family members of Ms Kerins, along with Mr. Flannery, in order to make a profit as an intermediary in the supply of these coffins. It suggests that perhaps people at the most senior level of Rehab regarded the organisation as something like a personal fiefdom and that they could break rules with impunity. We have two conundrums, with the former chief executive making a declaration around a company before it exists but stating she will stay away and not involve herself in commercial considerations of the business. I have just received this document and I have no way of telling if it was an isolated e-mail or one of a series, but Mr. Horgan e-mailed Ms Kerins on 18 December 2009 at 2.14 p.m., referring to the "coffin business plan". The witness can appreciate how it can be clearly inferred that, far from absenting herself from considerations of these matters, Ms Kerins was very much in the loop. Would Mr. Kerr accept that it looks that way?